Craig G on writing rhymes and coaching actors on 8 Mile
Today on the show, our interview with the legendary Craig G of the Juice Crew, who had a pivotal role in the making of the Eminem film 8 Mile.
We welcomed him to the Hip Hop Movie Club show for a conversation on 8 Mile, his own experiences rapping and battling other MC's, and more. We showed this exclusive video interview of the legendary Craig G of the Juice Crew after our screening of 8 Mile at SteelStacks.
He has a new single out "The Okey Doke" now on all streaming platforms, and a new album dropping November 1st called "The World Is Cooked". Check all of that out at his Spotify page.
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We have a
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:true hip hop pioneer with us today,
the one and only Craig
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:G, who helped write and coordinate
some of the rap battles in Eight Mile.
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:Craig G is a member of the legendary Juice
Crew from the Golden Age of Hip Hop.
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:Juice crew consisted of OGs
such as Marley Marl, MC Shan,
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:DJ Polo, Roxanne Shante, and Kool G Rap.
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:Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Mr.
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:C, and several others
centered around Queensbridge, New York.
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:This crew paved the way for so many stars
in hip hop collectives
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:such as the Wu-Tang clan,
the Juice Crews Collective.
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:The symphony is one of the earliest
and greatest posse tracks of all time.
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:Craig has been putting out tracks
since he was around
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:12 years old, and he's still producing
dope albums and tracks.
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:Welcome, Craig G.
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:Thank you for spending some time with us.
It was good.
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:First off, let me say rest in peace to Mr.
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:C, D.J.
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:Polo, and Biz Markie. Yes.
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:Yes. Right on.
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:Right.
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:Well, thanks again,
Craig, for spend time with us.
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:We just have a few questions.
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:If you can share with us in the audience
that we're going to be showing to this
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:and still stacks
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:First question, how did you get involved
with the movie eight mile?
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:Did Eminem approach
you? Did the studio approach you?
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:Have that even come about?
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:Very little known story.
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:When you constantly hear
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:about the rap Olympics that Eminem was in
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:right before he got signed, the Dre,
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:that's when I first met Eminem.
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:I was actually a judge in that battle.
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:Wow. Hey,
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:he battled a guy named otherwise, and I'm.
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:This is my personal opinion.
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:I thought M-1 and another judge was,
I believe Athie alone,
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:and he was part of otherwise crew,
and they gave it to him.
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:And I thought
it was a travesty of justice.
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:And I made a scene about it.
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:And, you know,
I kind of got cool with them do that.
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:But even a deeper, weirder story is
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:I don't know what year this was.
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:I had a show in Miami, and then
I had a show in Detroit, and we drove.
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:We had a, like a sprinter type
event two years ago.
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:We do the show in Miami,
we get to Detroit, shows canceled.
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:I'm like, oh man, me and my boy will pack.
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:We looking for Phillies to roll
some weed up in.
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:We go to this gas station store
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:like warehouses behind it.
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:And every time this door open,
I kept hearing hip hop.
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:I was like, yo, what's that?
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:So we walked over there.
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:Lo and behold, it was the club
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:the shelter was based on.
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:Me and rest in peace proof.
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:We went back and forth Ryan for rhyme
like 87 rounds.
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:None of us wanted to stop.
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:And me
and him became good friends after that.
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:Right.
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:So, you know, also rest in peace to Chino.
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:Excel because me proving,
you know, excel had a group
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:that we pretty much was on the phone
bouncing ideas
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:back and forth,
but we didn't really get to the studio.
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:Everybody was busy.
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:But moving on, I believe, that
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:and also the shelter situation,
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:plus me and, Paul Rosenberg,
we had the same lawyer.
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:I think all of that kind of,
worked his way into me getting that job.
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:Great story.
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:Nice.
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:All right,
so this is kind of a two part question.
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:So that's the famous scene.
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:Will be rabbit's character.
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:Cause Anthony Mackie, aka Papa Doc
to freeze up during that battle.
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:So part one, was that concept your idea
or in the second part is,
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:have you ever did someone dirty like that
during the battle?
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:No. Honestly, from what I understand,
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:Anthony Mackie wasn't really, really,
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:you know,
had the motions down for his battle.
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:And so they just wanted him
to do one rhyme, which I wrote.
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:And, the weird thing is the,
the movie was called
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:The New Detroit Project at first,
and they sent me the script.
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:Man highlighted
where they wanted me to write lyrics,
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:and, I did it, sent it back to them.
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:Whatever. Got my first check.
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:And then on New Year's Eve,
I was in New Year's Day.
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:I get a text,
this with two way pages out.
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:Paul hit me.
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:He's like, yo, you want to spend
your New Year's in Detroit?
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:I'm like,
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:He's like,
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:we need you to coach Anthony Mackie.
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:Like the motions and the battle and
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:I think I was at a wild New Year's
Eve party.
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:I lost my I.D.. Remember, this is 4911.
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:I took a Greyhound bus to Detroit
because of the money
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:they offered me to come after the fact
just to do that.
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:And,
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:Anthony Mackie was doing the rhyme.
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:He wasn't really getting it right.
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:And everybody's
trying to figure out what it was,
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:and I kind of pull him to the side,
and I was like, yo, you suck.
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:I like, gotta make him say.
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:When he got upset,
that's when he got that opening line.
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:When the show first starts the movie
first dance and me mean the battle.
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:Nah, I never had nobody freeze up.
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:Not really.
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:Well, what was it like working on the set?
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:Like, what was it
like working with Eminem in the crew?
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:If you could just a little bit
behind the scenes, how that was.
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:Believe it or not,
and would shoot the scenes
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:and then go to his trailer
because he had his family with him,
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:so he wasn't really around.
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:But I hung out with everybody else
of clues, was running
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:around all over Detroit, which is crazy.
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:I remember another crazy story about that.
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:It was during what was that?
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:Mayor and I went to jail.
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:Kwame Fitzpatrick I think it was.
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:Yeah. Chloe Kirkpatrick. Patrick. Yeah.
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:They were I was in the GM,
the hotel near the GM building, and Dave
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:was having his inauguration in the hotel,
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:and I'm on the elevator with like 40 cops
and a big ass bag of weed in my pocket.
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:And they had the
dog and everything on the on the elevator.
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:I'm like, oh my God, no, no.
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:And for some particular reason,
the dog didn't bother me.
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:Snitches get stitches, man.
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:I had Angel in my pocket that day.
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:There you go. Absolutely right.
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:But other than.
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:That, like, you know, being on the set,
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:it was long.
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:I was man, like, you know,
I don't envy movie stars.
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:It's a lot of work, man.
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:You got to sit around for hours
and do stuff.
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:Proof again. Rest in peace.
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:Was the type of dude would hang out
till five in the morning.
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:We got to be back on the set at seven.
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:I'm there like, I don't even drink coffee.
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:And I'm there
like with my head in my hand.
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:And he comes bouncing in the door,
like, yet eight hours asleep.
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:And, You
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:know, all the extras
and everybody was cool.
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:And then, they were going to actually do
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:a montage of him battling,
and I was going to be in the scene,
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:but I didn't have the right year clothes
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:because, remember,
it was supposed to be early 90s.
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:Yeah. And they they didn't do it.
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:But I wound up in the bonus footage
on the DVD.
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:Right. Thanks.
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:I have that copy with a special feature,
so I had to go back and get it.
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:Get nice.
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:I you. The battles for the. Extras.
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:All right.
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:So in addition to multiple studio albums,
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:we know you were the king of the rap
battle scene for many years.
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:Tell us a little bit
about how you got into rap battling.
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:I don't even want
to say I'm the king of rap battle, man.
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:Be honest with you and I'll explain it.
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:I never really got into it.
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:I started rapping when I was like seven
and that's all I did.
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:I never wrote rhymes, I just would rhyme.
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:So I guess it kind of picked up
naturally like that.
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:When I did my first single
when I was 12 years old called Shout Rap,
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:which was the rap version of the show.
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:By two years of age,
McCann had to help me structure the song
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:because I went in the studio
and just rapped for six minutes.
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:Yeah.
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:So that's how the freestyling came about.
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:But like, for me,
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:it's kind of bad
because I, I enjoy it and it's cool,
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:but it pigeonholed me and unjustly at that
because,
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:you know, they used to throw me in that
that category of all
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:the battle dudes can't make songs
and I'm like, yo, I had 4 or 5.
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:What would be considered classics
before anybody even knew about
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:my freestyle ability.
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:So, you know, and then
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:you could spend seven, eight hours
in a studio, another three hours writing
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:a song before you go to the studio,
and it'd be the Dope Song Contest.
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:Everything.
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:And you go on stage performing live,
and they like rap about my shoes
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:and you're like, come on, man,
I really want you to do this.
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:Right? Right. You know what I mean?
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:I want you to hear, like,
I, I'm a writer more than anything else.
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:And the styling was just an extra.
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:It was the undercoating on the new car.
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:Right, right, right.
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:So tell the audience, what other projects
have you recently completed?
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:What else would you like
to mention to the hip hop heads out there?
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:Great.
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:As I was saying before we went on air,
I just today,
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:September 3rd, 2024,
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:I just finished
the album is called The World Is Cooked.
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:I got KRS one, Chuck D, Chubb Rock,
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:B-Real, freeway.
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:I wasn't even trying to make an album.
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:I wound up, like, doing some songs,
and then the beats kept coming
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:and we wound up with ten joints
and two interludes.
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:And the first single called The Okie
Doke be out September 20th.
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:The album will be out November
1st on all platforms, and we'll have vinyl
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:probably in December, probably. So.
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:That's dope. What a lineup.
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:What a lineup for you.
That's definitely a banger, right?
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:This all heads like this? Yeah, yeah.
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:And if you if you gauge from the title
the world is cooked,
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:then I think you already know
what I'm talking about. So.
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:Yeah.
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:Right. Right. Right on.
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:Yeah.
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:So, this this question is,
it's kind of it's a little personal to me.
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:Knowing, you know, the Juice Crew.
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:So is there
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:a Juice Crew reunion in the works
or any plans for a kind of juice reunion?
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:Well, we did quite a few man.
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:Quite a few. We did a good
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:seven eight reunion shows.
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:We went to Europe.
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:Not everybody came by. The bulk of us.
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:And I don't know,
we might do them, you know.
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:But I have to because, you know,
we really kind of like, you know, so
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:maybe the most you might see is me
grab Kane and Ace on the same show.
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:Probably. Okay.
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:That's the last one we did.
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:We did that.
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:And,
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:and June I think in Atlantic City so yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Okay.
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:Next.
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:Nice nice nice.
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:As you know we'll be showing this video
to the crowd who just watched Eight Mile
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:at Steel Stacks in Bethlehem.
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:So shout out to everybody.
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:Shout out to PA.
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:Right on. Right right.
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:So thank you again
Craig G for giving us some time.
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:Everybody go check out his new album
The World Is Cook dropping November 1st.
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:Can I clear up
huge biscuits ception about him. Yes.
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:Please do. This.
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:I didn't write any of Eminem's
lyrics, okay?
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:Only the opponents
and a lot of them took what I wrote
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:and use their own stuff,
like within what I wrote.
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:I think exhibit probably said
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:the closest to the full rhyme
that I wrote, but he even changed
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:a couple of lines, didn't change my check,
but it was still a great experience
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:to work on the movie and, you know,
help out the actors with the motions,
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:with battling and all that, man.
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:So yeah, what a legacy.
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:Yeah. That authenticity though. Yeah.
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:Which also led to me writing the dangerous
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:characters rhyme and get rich die
trying as well.
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:Oh, it's just a write that up. Yeah.
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:Yeah. Right.
Yeah, yeah. It it would do that.
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:Well he was in the club
and they shot it up and dangerous.
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:I wrote that song.
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:Yeah.
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:Were you involved with the movie body
at All that Eminem had put him
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:in all those rap battles as well?
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:Okay, no, no, because that wasn't like
a theatrical release.
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:Zahler. Right, right. Yeah.
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:Like I'm the future films.
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:That Universal Pictures check.
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:That was. Those were nice.
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:I still get residuals on that or.
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:What I did on the DVD sales, but,
you know, that's okay.
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:Go on and win.
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:Now, you know, while the final DVD is.
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:So you're not getting a penny
from Netflix.
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:But, you know, it's cool.
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:Yeah. Hey.
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:Great experience.
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:Yeah.
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:Absolutely I can imagine. Yeah.
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:Awesome. Well, thank you so much.
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:Less again, enjoy the movie.
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:I hope you all enjoyed it.
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:It's not the battles you're seeing now
that's become popular with,
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:you know who your opponent is eight years
before the battle happens.
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:Eight mile was more about the organic,
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:you know, battling
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:where it was just you and another person
you might have found out ten minutes ago
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:you was battling them,
and you had to take a long look at them
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:and soak in all the jokes
before you started running.
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:So yeah. Hope you all enjoyed the movie.
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:And like I said, the World Is
could be out on November 1st one.
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:Love y'all.
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:It's awesome.
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:Thanks for all you done for the culture
and for sure
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:blazing a trail for so many people
we really appreciate.
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:Thank you man. I appreciate it as well.
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:Yes. Give you a few hours.