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A pimp with a song in his heart.

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Is there any other kind?

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But can DJay get “Whoop That Trick”

onto a demo tape for the world to hear?

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Today on Hip Hop

Movie Club, Hustle and Flow.

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Bring it! C’mon!

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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club.

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This is a show for Gen-X hip hop fans

who want to relive the glory days

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and reconsider classic and modern hip

hop films from a current day perspective.

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Together, we'll explore some of the larger

societal issues raised in these films.

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Whether you have seen or not

seen Hustle Flow before,

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we'll help you decide if you should take

the time to watch it now.

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Either way, you'll be a smarter

hip hop fan by the end of this episode.

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The next 30 minutes or so,

you'll get all this and more.

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We're three

old heads who put their old heads together

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to vibe on these films for you.

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I'm DynoWright, podcaster,

filmmaker, long time hip hop fan,

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and I saw A Tribe Called Quest for

first time at Lollapalooza in: 1994

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along with the Beastie Boys.

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I’m JB, eighties and

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nineties nostalgia Junkie, longtime

hip hop fan.

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And I like to rap this refrain: It’s the

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capital S, oh yes, I’m fresh, N double O-P

D-O double G-Y, D-O double G, ya see?

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I’m BooGie, a DJ, longtime

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hip hop fan

and one of my favorite emcees is Redman.

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Yes, Reggie Noble is from my ward

in Newark, New Jersey.

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In this episode, I'll answer the question:

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Just how hard is it out there for a pimp?

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Hustle

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and Flow is a 2005 musical drama

about a Memphis hustler and pimp

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whose long held desire to become

a rapper is renewed.

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His internal struggles are on full display

as he tries to add his flow

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to his tumultuous hustle game.

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All right,

let's dig right into Hustle and Flow.

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First question I have

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is, do

you guys think this is a believable story?

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What do you think, BooGie?

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Yeah, I mean, actually, I think it is.

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I mean,

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you have, you know, somebody that's

trying to make it and he's struggling and

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he's a pimp.

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And he also sells

sells and sells drugs at the same time.

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So, I mean, like you said,

you can hustle anything.

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So I always try to do both of those.

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I mean, he has an epiphany and he's like,

you know what?

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I think I can rap.

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I want to put out some raps.

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So, you know, I think the

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being in the right place at the right time

and being able

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to bring those people together

I think is pretty believable.

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I mean, like we've seen, you know, drug

dealers turned rappers all the time. And

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I mean,

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we've seen, you know, pimps,

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I guess, in

short turned into rappers as well.

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I mean, he just happens to do both.

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So I think that sense is pretty, you know,

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believable.

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What do you think, DynoWright?

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Hey, if successful crack dealers,

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if crack dealers can be successful

rappers, why not a pimp?

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Ice-T was one. So there you go.

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I was going to say

there have been other instances of pimps

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that become rappers

or the two professions cross paths.

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Well, people talk about

I don't know how true it is,

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but they like to think of themselves

as pimps.

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Too $hort was one as well.

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I don't know if he was traditionally

really a pimp.

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There's mixed

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theories about that or not.

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But yeah, definitely a believable story.

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You get your grind and

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the two can be somewhat related.

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So we want to.

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Transferable skills!

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Yes, exactly.

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So the main character is DJay,

played by Terrence Howard, who is the pimp

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who has hustle and adding the flow.

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What would you say

was his most endearing quality?

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What made him who he was?

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BooGie, want to kick us off on that one?

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Sure. I think.

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I mean, DJay’s persistent.

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I mean, the guy knows how to,

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quote unquote, hustle.

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He's a survivor.

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He knows how to go out there

and make money.

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He knows how to make those ends meet

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by any means necessary.

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I mean, he's not necessarily

a ruthless type guy, but

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he's pretty quick on his feet

when it comes

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to being resourceful,

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I mean, he's got a bit of a heart, too.

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You can see that

he does have a bit of a heart.

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He's not he's not a ruthless guy,

but he's not, quote unquote, a bad guy.

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I mean, he does some bad things

when he's not a bad guy.

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It for me, he he had the gift of gab.

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He's a leader.

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He was charismatic.

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And you could see the

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the ladies kind of followed

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what he was.

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They kind of bought

into what he was trying to do.

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And as he's trying to build his profession

in the rap game,

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you know, he he had their loyalty.

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But again, the gift of gab.

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I love the little dialog.

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This was one thing

I really liked throughout the movie, like

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there are a lot of quotable

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pieces in here,

like everybody got to have a dream,

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and even the soliloquy

in the very beginning comparing

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men to dogs and,

you know, not men, but mankind.

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And it really, really was catchy.

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I really liked that.

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What are your thoughts there, DynoWright?

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Yeah, he sort of had a heart of gold.

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He wasn't completely pure of heart,

but I think

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most of the time

his heart was the right place.

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And he was really persistent.

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I mean, you can't really be a successful

rapper without some persistence.

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So, again, transferable skills.

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That's true.

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He was a little bit abusive,

like slightly physical

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and verbal abusive,

which is difficult to see.

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But, you know, he - it’s

his upbringing not to justify it,

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but again,

his heart was in the right place.

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Yeah, you kind of you're rooting for him

to be successful.

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You know, you want you want

you want him to

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put down some good tracks

and make a nice demo

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and you want to see where

it will take him.

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And then like even when he's going off

finally at the end

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to go meet with Skinny Black, you’re

like aright, Please let this kick off

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the way it's supposed to happen and you’re

rooting for him.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You're rooting for him

to get out of the situation.

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And yeah.

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The rap

game is the way to get out for him, Right.

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Yeah.

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There were some intense scenes

in this movie.

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I'll.

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I'll kick it off with, like, talking about

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one or so, one or two, and

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then we can kind of share thoughts

about that one.

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Like when DJay pimps out Nola

to get the new microphone and they were

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cash strapped and he kind of sold

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her body to the

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audio store guy

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and she snaps at him as she was humiliated

and she was very upset about it.

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And she was like kind of had enough.

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She she

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she reached her

peak of what she could go through.

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And that was a pretty intense scene.

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And he kind of said,

ah, I'll I'll do something for you.

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I'll get you in front of the microphone

and have you be part of this.

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That was intense.

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But what other like intense scenes

were there in this film?

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Yeah, I mean, just to piggyback off

with that scene

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with Nola, man,

I mean, he was trying to calm her down.

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There was one line.

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There was one line that she said in

that exchange that really stuck with me.

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She looked at him and she said, D,

I know when you're messing with my head

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because I let you, because sometimes

my head needs to be messed with.

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But right now just don't, okay?

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It's like, wow, it was like that was.

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Very good.

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Because she let him know,

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like, this scene, like you're

not as sharp as you think you are.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You say things.

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I listen to you,

but I also let things happen.

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Not because of what you said,

but because in my head,

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I'm trying to find a way to escape

what’s going on in reality.

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I was like, Wow. Yeah, He's not so slick.

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Yeah, you

not as slick as you think you are.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, that.

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But also, there was one scene I really

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it was.

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It was very intense.

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It was when

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Lex, who was also living in the house

at one time, who was.

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She was actually working as a stripper,

but she was giving her her money to DJay

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as her pimp.

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And there's one part where she heard

the two of them really get into it,

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and he ends up

putting her out with her son.

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And I was like, wow.

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I mean, I thought he was going to,

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like, kind of change his mind, like, I,

you know, I just want teach you a lesson.

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But now he really left them out there.

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And you see

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Shug and Nola, you know, they kind of

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they're like very upset

and they're like crying.

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But, you know, neither one of them,

you know, dared intervene, of course.

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But you could see the hurt on their faces

as well, because they kind of had like a

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it was like

they had a symbiotic relationship.

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Everybody kind of played a part,

you know, when Lex was out, you know,

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you know, Shug would

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watch her son and vice versa.

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Nola would've been,

Nola would chip in here and there.

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And so they all kind of worked together.

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And to see Lex get put out was very

was very hard to watch.

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And I think one of the other scenes

was that

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that was really intense, was like the end

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with DJay

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finally going to meet Skinny Black

and things not working out

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necessarily

the way that he thought they would

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and Skinny Black in turn

didn't even listen to his demo.

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He just kind of chucked it in the toilet.

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And DJay begins to snap

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because Skinny Black is a little drunk

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and he's kind of provoking him

with that drunkenness.

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But DJay goes all in on him and

just starts beating on her mercilessly.

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And I was like, Wow, that's yeah.

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DynoWright, anything?

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Any other intense scenes that you noted?

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Well, the, the one we haven't mentioned

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yet is the actual writing session

that turned into Whoop That Trick.

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As a musician,

I appreciate the process of creating music

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and I really appreciated the DIY

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nature of having a stack of drink holders,

making that the

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the soundproofing and the pantyhose pop

filter - it actually works. So

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audio producers out there

with low budgets, get yourself some

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pantyhose with runs in it.

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And working out the beat on the MPC,

that's real.

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Yeah they let the beat build.

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Yeah that Whoop That track.

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That was, that was a jam.

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I mean

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if you haven't seen this movie

or at least want to see like that scene,

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look that up on YouTube,

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how they created that Whoop That Trick,

because you're nodding your head to that.

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And like, I really pulled you in.

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I saw I mean, Shug.

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You mentioned Shug.

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She was a pregnant woman.

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She was a great actress.

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You could see her continual despair

with her pregnancy and the conditions

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she was living in and trying to break out.

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She wanted more out of her life.

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Yeah.

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And BooGie, you mentioned

the confrontation with Skinny Black

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when they first when he first meets up

with Skinny Black, played by Ludacris.

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Ludacris, just looks right

past him, starts talking to other guys

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and like he doesn't remember him

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from back in the day

when they used to kind of know each other

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from growing up at the same area

and listening to the demo tapes.

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But also, yeah,

he the fit of rage because DJay

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nearly beats him to death

after he finds his tape in the toilet.

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And then the climax is, you know,

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the member of Black's

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entourage comes in, pulls out his gun,

and then just chaos ensues.

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He shoots him

and then escapes and etc., etc..

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Very intense scenes, really well done.

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Great cinematography.

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And even that scene with the exchange

between

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DJay, Skinny Black and Skinny

Black’s entourage as he leaves,

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that actually

that leads to another intense scene

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once DJay arrives home

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and the police

are just waiting at his home for him.

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And try to place him under arrest.

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And witnesses from the club are there and

kind of pointing at him, fingering him.

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And they’re like,

there he goes right there.

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And as the police are putting him in

cuffs,

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you see Shug,

you know, pregnant, Shug breaking down

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and Nola's crying

and trying to figure out what to do and

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one of one of the Skinny Black’s guys

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assaults DJay while he's in handcuffs

and everybody's trying to break it

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up, that was just,

that was tough seeing right there as well.

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It definitely was.

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When the cops use handcuffs, what

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what I like

is that, you know, he's handcuffed.

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He actually puts Nola

in charge of the music.

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He's shouting,

you know, you're in charge now.

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And in fact,

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DJay, I'm sorry, Nola

is my favorite character besides DJay.

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And I'll ask you guys that same

who's your favorite character?

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Because you could tell that

she had a desire for something greater.

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And it's

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kind of refreshing to see that she learned

how to hustle from observing DJay.

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She kind of absorbed it.

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And when he is imprisoned,

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she pounded the pavement

and got a song on the hit radio station.

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So I loved her determination.

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Even though she didn’t seemingly

have a great education

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became she became street

smart and persistent, just like DJay.

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Who is your, BooGie?

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Who was your favorite character

besides DJay and why?

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Yeah, I think definitely I have a combo.

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It's like, I like Shug and Nola

was definitely she was a real one.

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I mean, as far as like you said,

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she actually took that she was in charge

as she ran with it.

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I mean, I love how when Key goes to visit

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DJay and he's kind of

breaking it down for him as.

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yo man.

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And she was so she was she was you know,

he was telling him the story,

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but kind of breaking it down

and showing a picture as she's

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getting out of the car,

she's going to the radio station

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and she's repeating that whole soliloquy,

what dog and man said

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to the radio DJ, and then she comes out

and she gets in the car.

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Then like a few minutes later,

she turns, a few minutes later

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she turns on the radio,

goes to the station,

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and the DJ’s immediately

putting the song on. I was like, wow.

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But so yeah, like you said, you know,

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just the fact that she was able to absorb

it were from her situation

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so that she could get out of it herself.

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Because, yeah, I mean, the fact that D.J.

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makes it big, I mean, yeah,

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that's a chance for her to use

that as an escape route as well.

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But I also

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I love Shug’s character as well.

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I love the way she was portrayed.

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I mean, she's here you have, you know,

because she's pregnant.

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You could tell that she was also

one of DJay’s, prostitutes.

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And they hint at the fact

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a couple times that she doesn't even know

who the baby's father is.

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But you could also tell that her and DJay

had a connection at some point.

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There's

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definitely a real connection

between the two of them.

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And you see that come out in the end

as DJay is getting ready to go off

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to meet Skinny Black immediately

rushes back in and he,

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he kisses her and you could tell that

there's real love and affection.

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But she,

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I love the way

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when they sing It's

hard out there for a pimp,

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I love the way

she's trying to sing the chorus.

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And he's like,

They tell him to push it out,

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push it, push it, get it out, get it out.

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And finally

she throws him some soul on it.

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It finally gets it out and her face

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from when they finally play it back.

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You see how her face just lights up.

330

: 00:16:30

She's like,

oh my God, that's me. That's me.

331

: 00:16:32

I can't believe that's the way I sound.

332

: 00:16:34

And then you know how

she was even appreciative.

333

: 00:16:36

Like at the end she said, You know,

I really appreciate, appreciate,

334

: 00:16:40

you know, you putting me on all your songs

and letting me sing like that,

335

: 00:16:44

Like you didn't have to,

but I really appreciate it.

336

: 00:16:48

But it was something

it was something endearing

337

: 00:16:50

about her character

that I just really, really loved.

338

: 00:16:54

So yeah, I would definitely say

those those two.

339

: 00:16:58

Played by the great Taraji P Henson.

340

: 00:17:00

Yes, Yes.

341

: 00:17:05

DynoWright, Your favorite character

besides DJay?

342

: 00:17:08

Besides DJay, I enjoyed Shelby.

343

: 00:17:11

Of course, the musician in me was like,

Yeah, I'm down with the musician.

344

: 00:17:15

DJ Qualls is so good as Garth

345

: 00:17:18

in Supernatural,

346

: 00:17:22

one of the one of the sort of side

character

347

: 00:17:26

demon hunters.

348

: 00:17:27

But I enjoyed

349

: 00:17:31

DJ Qualls in this Shelby.

350

: 00:17:37

DJ Qualls, like a skinny, nerdy

looking type fella,

351

: 00:17:40

and he's got the skills deejaying.

352

: 00:17:44

I remember him vividly from the movie

Road Trip, which was one of those,

353

: 00:17:48

I think, nineties comedies,

just goofball comedies.

354

: 00:17:51

And ironically, talking about hip

hop, we’re Hip Hop Movie Club.

355

: 00:17:54

There was a

356

: 00:17:56

remember,

there's a memorable scene in that when he

357

: 00:18:01

starts dancing

358

: 00:18:02

to “It's Tricky” - so if you looked

that up, look up, “It's Tricky.

359

: 00:18:06

DJ Qualls” So

maybe we could put that in the show notes.

360

: 00:18:09

It's pretty funny, his little skinny white

dude like stick skinny, like,

361

: 00:18:15

like 90 pounds soaking wet and

362

: 00:18:19

he gets some

363

: 00:18:22

some street cred, so to speak, from

364

: 00:18:25

busting out to It's Tricky by Run-D.M.C.

365

: 00:18:28

Yeah I like that in that movie had

When they were all leaving the house

366

: 00:18:31

he's giving dap to everybody.

367

: 00:18:33

Everybody knew him on the way out.

368

: 00:18:37

Well.

369

: 00:18:38

Like the skinniest dude.

370

: 00:18:42

Everybody knew him.

371

: 00:18:44

I liked him in that.

372

: 00:18:45

And I also liked them in The New Guy too,

373

: 00:18:48

that was a wacky movie.

374

: 00:18:49

But he was funny in that.

375

: 00:18:52

In Hustle & Flow,

376

: 00:18:54

it was funny when they were like

smoking a joint or something.

377

: 00:18:57

And he he got

378

: 00:18:59

he was cracking me up with the dialog

between these guys was was

379

: 00:19:02

pretty funny in this movie.

380

: 00:19:04

He got real deep.

381

: 00:19:06

Yeah yeah.

382

: 00:19:08

I'm sorry.

383

: 00:19:08

I don't remember the exact quotes,

but it was.

384

: 00:19:11

It was.

385

: 00:19:12

It was worth watching.

386

: 00:19:12

That was funny.

387

: 00:19:16

We haven’t touched on

388

: 00:19:18

Key, the character Key,

389

: 00:19:22

played by Anthony Anderson,

390

: 00:19:24

who's been in a million, a million things.

391

: 00:19:27

So he was kind of like a straight edge

guide.

392

: 00:19:29

His life on the straight and narrow

and but he had gone to school with DJay.,

393

: 00:19:34

but he was all about

394

: 00:19:37

building up a studio, and they hooked up.

395

: 00:19:41

So he was trying to balance,

you know, kind of

396

: 00:19:45

navigating

397

: 00:19:48

his time in the recording studio,

398

: 00:19:52

having to deal with DJay

and the prostitutes,

399

: 00:19:56

and just to find out what his wife,

Yvette, was really straight edge.

400

: 00:19:59

That was an interesting dynamic.

401

: 00:20:02

She wasn't happy at all about that.

402

: 00:20:04

The hanging out of the house house

with a bunch of prostitutes.

403

: 00:20:08

I mean, justifiably so.

404

: 00:20:09

I mean, granted, he wasn't

he wasn't even tempted in the least bit.

405

: 00:20:13

He was all about just doing the music.

406

: 00:20:17

It was all optics.

407

: 00:20:18

Optics weren't working in his favor,

Right.

408

: 00:20:22

Yeah.

409

: 00:20:23

There was a funny quote that I recorded

410

: 00:20:25

from Key's dialogue.

411

: 00:20:28

Anthony Anderson's

character said There's two types of people

412

: 00:20:31

those that talk the talk

and those that walk the walk.

413

: 00:20:34

People who walk the walk sometimes talk.

414

: 00:20:35

The talk, but most times they don't

talk at all because they walk in.

415

: 00:20:39

Now, people who talk the talk,

when it comes

416

: 00:20:41

time for them to walk the walk,

you know what they do? They talk.

417

: 00:20:43

They talk. People like me to walk, walk.

418

: 00:20:46

I was just like, What?

419

: 00:20:47

My head was spinning,

but it made a lot of sense.

420

: 00:20:49

It did eventually make sense.

421

: 00:20:51

It did make sense.

422

: 00:20:53

Yeah.

423

: 00:20:53

I was cracking up with that.

424

: 00:20:56

So back to Nola's character.

425

: 00:20:58

She's played by Taryn Manning.

426

: 00:21:02

Where have we seen her before?

427

: 00:21:03

Boogie You recall?

428

: 00:21:05

Yeah, I remember her.

429

: 00:21:09

She was B-Rabbit’s ex-girlfriend

in 8 Mile.

430

: 00:21:12

Janine Yeah.

431

: 00:21:15

It was funny because I looked at her

and I said,

432

: 00:21:19

Wait a minute, I know her from somewhere

and I couldn't put my finger on it.

433

: 00:21:24

And then my mom was like yeah,

she was in 8 Mile.

434

: 00:21:26

I was like oh yeah!

435

: 00:21:28

There we go.

436

: 00:21:31

Yeah.

437

: 00:21:32

Researching,

she's been in a lot of things.

438

: 00:21:36

She was in Orange is the New Black,

439

: 00:21:39

which was a popular Netflix series

for many years.

440

: 00:21:44

Now DJay’s rapping style.

441

: 00:21:46

Like I said, he was he was good.

442

: 00:21:48

Those tracks

that he put out really catchy.

443

: 00:21:53

Whose style do you think he was most

similar to?

444

: 00:21:55

Is there another rapper out there

that kind of sounds like this?

445

: 00:21:59

I'm getting this type of vibe from.

446

: 00:22:02

What do you guys think?

447

: 00:22:06

You know, I was I was going

I kept going back and forth to him

448

: 00:22:09

that when I was trying to figure out

who kind of reminded me of,

449

: 00:22:14

I think with the like, walk that through

450

: 00:22:17

the chorus, it was kind of like

451

: 00:22:21

Lil John and the Eastside Boyz,

almost the chorus.

452

: 00:22:24

I think, his flow

kind of reminded me a little bit of T.I.

453

: 00:22:30

Little bit Too $hort, definitely.

454

: 00:22:34

I mean, I would never could put it compare

to anyone in in the Northeast or

455

: 00:22:37

so there was the music as the typical

Southern drawl, something maybe

456

: 00:22:45

Slim Thug, maybe a little too.

457

: 00:22:49

Yeah.

458

: 00:22:50

I listed Too $hort

459

: 00:22:51

as one that I compared him to,

or maybe a little bit of Master P.

460

: 00:22:55

Okay.

461

: 00:22:57

And then he had a little bit of that

462

: 00:22:59

gruff

sounds like DMX, not to that extreme,

463

: 00:23:03

but the way he came out with that Whoop

That Trick, it was kind of

464

: 00:23:06

like the the cadence of it

maybe a little bit.

465

: 00:23:10

Yeah, because it's in your face. Yeah.

466

: 00:23:13

Yeah.

467

: 00:23:13

So I was thinking like a combination

like DMX, Master P and Too $hort.

468

: 00:23:17

DynoWright, any other comparisons?

469

: 00:23:21

I probably, I agree

totally on the Southern rapper thing.

470

: 00:23:26

I think it was definitely

some kind of Southern rapper

471

: 00:23:29

archetype.

472

: 00:23:30

I thought there was a little bit

of Ludacris in it.

473

: 00:23:32

Not much.

474

: 00:23:33

And like, like one like

475

: 00:23:38

whiff

476

: 00:23:38

of Tupac was not like the subject

matter was not the same.

477

: 00:23:41

But I think there was something

in the lyrical delivery.

478

: 00:23:45

There's something in there.

479

: 00:23:46

I was like,

I thought, I've heard this in Tupac maybe.

480

: 00:23:49

But yeah, I would agree

that there's a Southern at least

481

: 00:23:52

a Southern rapper thing going on there.

482

: 00:23:55

Yeah, it makes sense.

483

: 00:23:57

Memphis is where it takes place.

484

: 00:24:01

And we were joking before.

485

: 00:24:03

The way Terrence Howard says “man”. Man,

486

: 00:24:08

“Stop playing man.” Stop playing man.

487

: 00:24:13

It was great.

488

: 00:24:13

Every time he would say that, I was just

chuckling to myself.

489

: 00:24:18

Terrence Howard

490

: 00:24:22

has had an interesting career.

491

: 00:24:25

One of his first roles was in Dead

Presidents,

492

: 00:24:27

which we haven't even reviewed yet.

493

: 00:24:28

Maybe we will add that to our list.

494

: 00:24:31

He was in Mr.

495

: 00:24:31

Holland's Opus, Crash, Ray with Jamie Foxx

496

: 00:24:37

and a ton of things, and

497

: 00:24:38

he was the Colonel James Rhodes

in the first

498

: 00:24:42

of the newer Iron Man movies

499

: 00:24:45

from 2008 in the MCU.

500

: 00:24:48

What were some of the other highlights

from Terrence Howard's career

501

: 00:24:53

and any other comments

on some of these roles?

502

: 00:24:57

Yeah, I mean,

I think he's a very versatile actor.

503

: 00:25:00

I mean, the only thing that drives me

crazy is with his.

504

: 00:25:03

the man.

505

: 00:25:05

He can’t shake it.

506

: 00:25:07

Other than that,

I think he's he's a very good actor.

507

: 00:25:10

I mean, like, I love him in the Best Man

movie franchise.

508

: 00:25:15

Best Man, Best Man Holiday,

509

: 00:25:17

and the still continuing series of Best

Man final chapters.

510

: 00:25:22

He is a very great actor.

511

: 00:25:24

I mean, he gives you

512

: 00:25:26

all of the emotions.

513

: 00:25:27

They'll make you crack up and make you

514

: 00:25:30

want to choke him.

515

: 00:25:32

He gets real serious.

516

: 00:25:34

He shows a loyalty in those as well.

517

: 00:25:37

And I think another role that I loved him

in also

518

: 00:25:41

was Pride.

519

: 00:25:43

I can't remember the characters, but Pride

520

: 00:25:45

is a story of

521

: 00:25:49

a local swim team from Philadelphia.

522

: 00:25:51

They start off at one of the

523

: 00:25:55

recreation centers

524

: 00:25:56

that they were supposed to close down,

but he ends up

525

: 00:26:00

taking to some of the local kids

in the area and creating a swim team,

526

: 00:26:04

and they actually go out and compete

527

: 00:26:07

and become extremely successful.

528

: 00:26:10

And it's a very good movie.

529

: 00:26:13

And I think that his portrayal in that

movie was excellent.

530

: 00:26:17

That's one of my favorite movies.

531

: 00:26:19

I watched that

532

: 00:26:20

probably a couple times in the last

533

: 00:26:22

few weeks.

534

: 00:26:26

But yeah, I think he's a good actor.

535

: 00:26:27

He's great.

536

: 00:26:28

I mean, I don't know all the ins and outs

of what happened with him.

537

: 00:26:31

With the MCU deal playing Rhodey Rhodes

in the Iron Man and also the recurring

538

: 00:26:37

movies. But

539

: 00:26:39

yeah, I was that was a sucky move.

540

: 00:26:42

Whatever happened or because he could have

he could have

541

: 00:26:45

delivered.

542

: 00:26:48

I understand it was a money problem.

543

: 00:26:50

Wanted more money.

544

: 00:26:53

Yeah we we discussed that

my son is huge in the MCU

545

: 00:26:56

and we're always like, man,

this could have been Terrence Howard,

546

: 00:26:58

but he was replaced by Don

Cheadle in the sequels for Iron

547

: 00:27:01

Man and Don Cheadle is great actor

in his own right.

548

: 00:27:05

yeah.

549

: 00:27:09

Rhodey and then War Machine and

550

: 00:27:13

so many other roles.

551

: 00:27:14

But yeah, it's interesting how that didn't

pan out for Terrence Howard,

552

: 00:27:20

but yet money is at the root of a lot of,

553

: 00:27:25

you know, arguments or discussions here.

554

: 00:27:27

But and we can't forget

555

: 00:27:31

they spent all that time reunited

with Taraji P

556

: 00:27:33

Henson in Empire, which I've never seen,

but I understand it's great.

557

: 00:27:37

Yeah. So.

558

: 00:27:38

Yeah. Get Rich or Die

Tryin’. Five years, five seasons.

559

: 00:27:42

Yes he is.

560

: 00:27:48

We're going to review it next.

561

: 00:27:52

That’s next, yep.

562

: 00:27:54

Terrence

Howard was nominated for the Academy Award

563

: 00:27:56

for best actor for his role as DJay.

564

: 00:28:00

And do you remember

565

: 00:28:02

“It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp” won

566

: 00:28:05

the award for

567

: 00:28:08

one of the awards for Best Song.

568

: 00:28:10

Best Original song.

569

: 00:28:11

Original song, Yeah.

570

: 00:28:12

By Three 6 Mafia, right?

571

: 00:28:14

Is that it?

572

: 00:28:15

So ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Ding.

573

: 00:28:18

So let's talk about, let’s

talk about the soundtrack a little bit.

574

: 00:28:24

The songs by Terrence Howard as

575

: 00:28:26

DJay are on here, which is great.

576

: 00:28:30

Hard out here for a pimp.

577

: 00:28:32

Who else appears on the soundtrack?

578

: 00:28:36

Juvenile, E-40, 8Ball,

579

: 00:28:43

T.I. that you mentioned, yep.

580

: 00:28:44

Lil Scrappy.

581

: 00:28:45

Yep. Webbie, Lil Boosie.

582

: 00:28:50

Yeah.

583

: 00:28:53

He had the We in Charge skit.

584

: 00:28:57

And the bum guys get.

585

: 00:28:58

So Arnel was like the restaurant's

slash club owner played by Isaac Hayes.

586

: 00:29:03

The late Isaac Hayes. Yeah.

587

: 00:29:06

It's always good to see him on film.

588

: 00:29:08

Absolutely. Yeah.

589

: 00:29:10

True legend in the game.

590

: 00:29:13

For sure. Yeah.

591

: 00:29:15

Yeah. Who else?

592

: 00:29:16

So we mentioned Ludacris plays

Skinny Black.

593

: 00:29:19

I just love the name Skinny Black is like

594

: 00:29:22

you two adjectives to describe this guy.

595

: 00:29:26

He’s skinny and he's black.

596

: 00:29:29

Done. Done!

597

: 00:29:31

And does this precede the Fast

and the Furious franchise?

598

: 00:29:36

I'm not sure, but this was 2005.

599

: 00:29:38

I don't know when that started, but.

600

: 00:29:41

Nah, he was in 2 Fast 2 Furious.

601

: 00:29:43

Okay. So he was in that one at least.

602

: 00:29:46

Yeah. Yeah.

603

: 00:29:47

So yeah, 2 Fast

Furious was: 2003

604

: 00:29:54

I mean it's not the

605

: 00:29:56

we're up to what now 56 of these

606

: 00:29:59

Fast and Furious movies?

607

: 00:30:02

There’s at least ten.

608

: 00:30:03

Got in on the ground floor. Yeah

609

: 00:30:09

I think the one

610

: 00:30:10

I love this song

that I love though on this track was

611

: 00:30:14

was also done by DJay

was that the Hustle and Flow song?

612

: 00:30:19

I like that one

613

: 00:30:23

traffic of the chorus,

614

: 00:30:24

but should sing the chorus

on that one as well.

615

: 00:30:30

When he had a best one where he had

Nola kissed the mike

616

: 00:30:34

before he performed it with Yvette,

came over with the sandwiches.

617

: 00:30:39

Yes. That song.

618

: 00:30:41

I love that song too. It’s mellow.

619

: 00:30:44

I could, I could cruise in that,

listening to that song.

620

: 00:30:48

Yeah.

621

: 00:30:48

Sadly, Isaac

Hayes died a few years after this film.

622

: 00:30:54

This film was from 2005 He died in 2008.

623

: 00:30:57

Yeah.

624

: 00:30:58

At age 65.

625

: 00:31:00

Didn't realize he was gone that long.

626

: 00:31:02

Yeah,

627

: 00:31:05

he was the chef on South Park too.

628

: 00:31:08

That's been a resurgence.

629

: 00:31:10

There was, as I say,

he did a storied career in

630

: 00:31:14

music and film and

631

: 00:31:17

he brought it back there.

632

: 00:31:19

Yeah one of the greats right there.

633

: 00:31:24

You guys want to go round do ourratings

for the film Hustle and Flow?

634

: 00:31:27

All right, Boogie,

635

: 00:31:30

bring that funky flick back

(Bring that funky flick back)

636

: 00:31:33

or leave it in the vault.

637

: 00:31:35

Bring that funky flick back.

638

: 00:31:38

DynoWright?

639

: 00:31:41

Bring that funky flick back.

640

: 00:31:45

Myself.

641

: 00:31:46

Whoop That Trick.

642

: 00:31:46

I mean, bring that funky flick back.

643

: 00:31:50

This is very entertaining.

644

: 00:31:53

Musical.

645

: 00:31:53

It had

646

: 00:31:56

drama,

647

: 00:31:58

intensity, violence, music, hip hop.

648

: 00:32:01

It's checked

all the boxes you bring it back.

649

: 00:32:06

It's one you should see.

650

: 00:32:09

This is definitely worth watching.

651

: 00:32:10

Yeah,

652

: 00:32:17

this probably was rated

well on Rotten Tomatoes.

653

: 00:32:19

Let's see 82%

654

: 00:32:22

tomatometer and 83% audience score.

655

: 00:32:25

A lot of times

those two don't really jive.

656

: 00:32:27

Sometimes audience likes it much more than

657

: 00:32:30

the critics or vice versa.

658

: 00:32:33

But yeah, this is loved by many.

659

: 00:32:36

We're all in agreement.

660

: 00:32:37

That's right. It's not a perfect film,

661

: 00:32:40

but it's definitely enjoyable,

definitely entertaining.

662

: 00:32:44

That'll give you all of the emotions.

663

: 00:32:46

And this was John Singleton, right?

664

: 00:32:49

He was the producer.

665

: 00:32:50

He produced it.

666

: 00:32:51

Okay. He's one of them. Let’s see.

667

: 00:32:54

Craig Brewer.

668

: 00:32:55

Brewer That's that's

669

: 00:32:58

written and directed by Craig Brewer.

670

: 00:33:11

Bring it!

671

: 00:33:11

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672

: 00:33:12

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673

: 00:33:16

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674

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676

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677

: 00:33:26

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678

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680

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681

: 00:33:36

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682

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